Wednesday, 18 July 2012

Even more mad now!

I sent this email to the physio yesterday.

" Ace came in extremely stiff in the back this morning in the saddle area and the loins. I massaged him  this afternoon to free it up (I got taught how a few years ago by a physio)  and I did the exercise you told me to, which went fine.

I put the saddle on and there was no problem with girthing him up.  I rode him very gently in walk and he stretched out really well but he absolutely refused to trot and simply bucked. I got off and put him on the lunge to see what was happening and he tried to kick me. When he did trot he was squealing and not right behind on either leg. I have rugged him up very warm for tonight and will be turning him out later when the grass is less sweet.


Obviously I'm going to have to wait a few days for whatever it is that is hurting him to wear off. My question meanwhile is whether you want me to continue to do that back-raising reflex with him. He did not seem to have any problem with it. His carrot stretches were terrific too.


I'll await your advice.
  "

I had a phone call this morning that went like this:

Physio-

I didn't do anything that would have caused that reaction, it must have been the air that we took out of the saddle.

Me, restraining myself from blowing up because she didn't even seem to have read what I had written,-

The saddle hadn't been anywhere near him. He came in with such a stiff back that I could see it. 

Physio -

I didn't do anything that could have caused that reaction. He must have twisted or slipped in the field overnight, but we need to rule out the saddle

Me, wondering why an equilateral stiffness in the direct area that she manipulated 18 hours before would have been caused by a slip in the field, when turned out with another horse so lame he can't trot, -

The saddle has already been ruled out. It had been nowhere near him. He came in sore.

Physio -


I didn't do anything that could have caused that. Let me know how he goes on.

Me (unspoken) -

What's the point, you aren't coming within 100 yards of a horse of mine ever again.


I'm so mad! Why couldn't she just say that it was a very uncommon reaction but accept that it cannot be a co-incidence and tell me what to do with him now?  I think I know what she has done. Yesterday morning he looked just like SH did after a charletan osteopath (later struck off) pinched his spinal cord by pressing too hard manipulating his back, where he has a number of ruptured disks. Ace looked just like him yesterday morning and I am sure that what has happened is that she has bruised his nerves.

Thankfully, he's a lot better today, and having suffered from it himself SH's view is that he should be kept very warm, moving gently, and nothing else until he frees up of his own accord. I'm inclined to agree with him and Ace currently  has a winter weight rug on although it is approaching 20 c outside.   To make it worse, the forecast rain has not appeared and I really am missing my dressage outing for no good reason at all !

I tried so hard to do the right thing, and all that has happened is that I  have paid someone to damage my horse.

NOT HAPPY!!!

C

8 comments:

  1. Hmmm, its undeniable that the two incidents are linked. Rather than looking at Ace in particular I will tell you my story...

    About 7 years ago, before my barefoot adventure, my horse had a hip which was more pointy than the other (true cause was poor foot balance on that foot...but not known at the time).

    I asked a McTimony practitioner to come out. She did lots of soft stuff but then started cranking the neck hard, left & right and finally hoicked the hind legs right up with an audible crack. Said rest for a day or two, then resume.

    Next day I called the vet, horse was very lame behind (and has never been before or since). Vet asked if I'd got her shut in a stable door??? She was on bute for 2 weeks and rested. She came right.

    But I've never ever let a physio near her again, it frightened the beep beep beep out of me.

    If they're not injured leave well alone, just get feet balanced, rider balanced, saddle OK and good quality riding.

    I hope Ace rights himself as my mare did.

    p.s. what method was the practitioner by the way??

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  2. p.s. I reckon she should refund you!!

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  3. Proper 5 year trained animal physiotherapist Tracey. I won't use any of the more esoteric methods, I don't trust them.

    I don't trust physios now. Refund is not a possibility, she won't even admit that it was what she did to him!

    C

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  4. Good grief. I'm sorry Ace is in this position, R&R will hopefully see him right shortly if its anything like my mare's experience.

    Very annoying.

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  5. I will again suggest acupuncture as a potential help here. But, you need to get a qualified acupunturist.

    In humans Valerian helps relax muscles. It is used in horses too but I don't know the dosage. Might be an idea.

    This is more than frustrating. I really resent the physio's attitude. Sounds to me as if she has had clients question her before and is worried about a lawsuit or something. This way, she simply denies everything and wipes her hands of responsibility.

    There's a book by Jack Meagher called "Beating Muscle Injuries in Horses" that has massage info for the horse owner. The illustrations are excellent as are all the explanations of where and how to massage areas of the horse. It might be worth a look in case there are other places Ace might benefit from some massage.

    Wish one of my vets were there for you. Both of them that I've used for Chiro/acupuncture are very well respected and in the 20 or more years I've known and used them, I have NEVER had a negative result.

    I am nearly as upset about this as you are. It's just not fair when the horse has to suffer, let alone you. Poor Ace.

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  6. If I had a vet anywhere near who did acupuncture I would use it Jean. I know that it works and is very difficult to do any harm with. No vet round here does it, and I'm not having a physio near him in case they start messing around with their hands!

    He seems much happier tonight and has just cantered off down the field.

    C

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  7. Caroline, I did a search on the ABVA (Association of British Acupunture Vets) and found a list of vets in the Cheshire area. Didn't filter to see who does horses, but it might be worth a look.

    Here's the list:
    NameAndrea Koll
    Emailfred@anchel.fsnet.co.uk
    AddressWarrington, Cheshire, England
    TownWarrington
    CountyCheshire
    PostcodeWA5 2RB
    CountryEngland
    Telephone
    Qualifications
    Info
    NameAnthonyJohnson
    Emailnone@supplied12.co.uk
    AddressBaron & Johnson Veterinary Surgeons 5 Edleston Road
    TownCrewe
    CountyCheshire
    PostcodeCW2 7HJ
    CountryEngland
    Telephone01270 212720
    QualificationsBVetMedMRCVS
    Info
    NameEllie West
    Emailsath@liv.ac.uk
    AddressNeston, Cheshire, England
    TownNeston
    CountyCheshire
    PostcodeCH64 7TE
    CountryEngland
    Telephone
    Qualifications
    Info
    NameGianuario Marotta
    Emailmarottagino@yahoo.co.uk
    AddressChester, Cheshire, England
    TownChester
    CountyCheshire
    PostcodeCH3 5JY
    CountryEngland
    Telephone
    Qualifications
    Info
    NameJaneFletcher
    Emailnone@supplied8.co.uk
    Address
    Town
    CountyCheshire
    Postcode-
    Country-
    Telephone07831 654031
    QualificationsMRCVS BVSc Vet MFHom
    Info
    NameKenneth James Edward Robinson
    Emailrosecottagevet@aol.com
    AddressRuncorn, Cheshire, England
    TownRuncorn
    CountyCheshire
    PostcodeWA7 3EQ
    CountryEngland
    Telephone
    Qualifications
    Info
    NameLouise Frary
    Emailloufrary@aol.com
    AddressStalybridge, Cheshire, England
    TownStalybridge
    CountyCheshire
    PostcodeSK15 3NT
    CountryEngland
    Telephone
    Qualifications
    Info
    NameMatthew Gurney
    Emailmattagurney@gmail.com
    AddressSutton Weaver, Cheshire, England
    TownSutton Weaver
    CountyCheshire
    PostcodeWA7 3FW
    CountryEngland
    Telephone
    QualificationsBVSc CertVA DipECVAA MRCVS
    InfoMatt graduated from the University of Liverpool in 2003 and spent the next two and a half years enjoying general practice. In 2006 he returned to academia to undertake a residency training in anaesthesia and critical care and he gained the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons Certificate in Veterinary Anaesthesia in 2007. Matt joined Northwest Surgeons in early 2009 where he provides expertise in anaesthesia and his passion for pain management is of great benefit to many of our patients. Matt is a diplomate of the European College of Veterinary Anaesthesia & Analgesia.
    NameRichard Hewitt
    Emailinfo@hollybankvets.co.uk
    AddressNorthwich, Cheshire, England
    TownNorthwich
    CountyCheshire
    PostcodeCW8 2DX
    CountryEngland
    Telephone
    Qualifications
    Info
    NameVikki Moran
    Emailvikki.moran@sky.com
    AddressNorthwich, Cheshire, England
    TownNorthwich
    CountyCheshire
    PostcodeCW9 8FW
    CountryEngland
    Telephone
    Qualifications
    Info

    At the very least, you could call one of them to see if they have a recommendation. Even if you don't get anyone there now, it would be worth it to keep a name and number in your "bag of tricks."

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  8. Thankyou Jean, that's very kind of you.

    C

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